I'm actually pretty new to recapitulation, but Fairy has been teaching some things related.
Some years ago I got annoyed with the list, and just gave it up.
But since Dan teached me to move the assemblage point in the darkness, I realized I haven't tried hard enough.
Now it seems the entire magical effects it has, are because of the J Curve.
While remembering the past events and doing the breathing techniques, the double wakes up.
The same as in the darkroom.
It is not accurate to believe you are "overcoming past events".
That's equivalent to thinking Enlightenment is permanent!
You just get rid of the "self" in the practice, and everything that it means.
That's why it has magical effects.
But it doesn't mean that when you come back to the blue line, you will be suffering-free.
Taisha had recapitulated her life twice, and still had trouble with the ordinary life.
Don Juan even warned us, the task of recapitulation never ends in this life.
He was meaning, you need to keep J Curving and healing yourself everyday.
Since all the sorcery paths seem to become the same, later you can learn to recapitulate your life in minits.
You just get silent and switch to the double.
He usually exists somewhere else, like weird copies of reality.
Weird copies that tend to mix. That's easier to notice in the daylight practice.
For instance, you can remote view on some leaves, and literally translocate into a real scene.
And you forget your "own context".
The places you see, has their own context.
Or they become too abstract to need a context.
I suspect that's seeing Intent. At least some early view of it.
That level of lightness is useful for us!
The breathig of recapitulation can really do it!
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I like to say, recapitulation only makes you sick and tired of thinking about a topic.
It doesn't "remove it".
It'll still bother you.
But for a beginner up at the blue or green line, when something triggers your internal dialogue it can keep going and turn into fantasizing.
You think a quick thought which wouldn't hurt anything if you just dropped it.
Like, "Shit, that lie they told still bothers me..."
That ought to be enough, but it turns into, "And after all I did for them? What about the Christmas party, where I didn't call the cops? And then there was the time they... Wait, that's how I met Linda. Linda was kind of hot back then. I sure wish..."
If you recapitulated it, it enters your internal dialogue but doesn't keep going.
You're sick of that topic! So you can "toss it out".
Don Juan explained a little more. The Eagle commands us to "take an inventory" once in a while.
What that feels like in the dark room is, you find yourself fantasizing again, after a good period of silence. And you try to pin down how it is that you keep screwing up and starting your internal dialogue again. You're "on the lookout" for returning internal dialogue, hoping to find out what goes wrong.
You remember don Juan's claim that it's the Eagle commanding you to "take an inventory". See what's around.
But as don Juan also said, the eagle doesn't command us to worship our inventory.
When you find yourself thinking again, just toss it out.
If you have "double assist" (20% or more) at that moment, you might even notice that the Eagle's command to take an inventory caused you to rotate in space.
You're facing the wrong direction!
So you toss it out, and find yourself restored to the direction you were facing.
Of course it's dark in there, so that's all in the second attention. Which makes it even more real, since obviously you didn't really get turned around by the Eagle's command.
But you can catch it, if you look for it.
My theory: We were created as bubbles surrounding a certain range of emanations, then filled up with awareness.
We're awareness encased in an egg.
But when we were first created, we didn't know the intent of anything.
Ice cream wasn't even a perception. If you could locate the emanations for ice cream, you sure wouldn't be able to separate them from anything else.
You couldn't bundle, or even mini-bundle anything at all.
In that early situation, there wasn't much flow of awareness through the emanations.
We were "zoned out".
Just a theory now, keep that in mind.
We're no use to the Eagle zoned out permanently, so he shouts once in a while, "You idiot, take a look around! You've zoned out again. Do you recognize anything yet?"
Remember, we weren't born yet.
We might have remained like that for a million years. Or maybe it was only seconds.
I'll leave it to Juan to travel to the fields of the Matrix world where humans live in bubbles.
Maybe he can figure out how long they're zoned out when first cloned into there.
Recapitulation breaks the chain of thoughts, making it easier to get silent.
It does a bunch of other things, but I have to go check on Cholita now.
And it sounds like the same we do with the puffs.
We arbitrary choose something to focus the attention on, and then lose the interest.
That ends up producing the vertical shifts.
I definitely noticed that!
I believe you were extremely correct to directly tie the J curve to recap.
You could superimpose the colors over your progress.
Which is why I often say, recap needs to be done 3 hours at a time.
Otherwise you don't get to see what orange zone recap is like, where the scenes just pop up, fully visible.
The community seems ignorant of the potential of recap, so I have to suspect they never get below the green line. Because they fantasize and let their internal dialogue run, and don't do long enough sessions to get past that.
The red line is where you can actually enter into the scenes. At least, in some weird shapeshifted form.
And also the energy levels are important.
Even if the assemblage point gets down there, "energy" is what make the possibilities useful.
The red zone are just cartoons, unless you can enter those demon worlds.
By the way, I've never been in heaven, but visited many times hell.
What do you mean Fairy??!!
I never got to see hell, but the Chinese created such an elaborate fantasy of it, that has to have created a phantom realm to match it.
That's what Catholics picked up. The Chinese version of hell.
It's because Rome was already trading with China at some levels.
The "Hellenists" picked that up.
In the bible proper, "hell" actually represents 6 entirely different ideas.
None of them the Chinese concept of hell.
I suppouse they are all talking about Inorganic Beings worlds.
I have seen places that seems to have hundreds of souls suffering for eternity.
Arid places, with rivers full of screaming heads, torture, skeletons.
In the darkness, growing in the ground, and in a lake!
Sometimes I doubt if those are really beings trapped there, or they are just IOBs.
I can see why the Chinese and the Catholics made stories about it.
Except I found it literally "fun as hell".
Several very famous Yogis visited hell.
Muktananda comes to mind.
Interestingly, his teacher was famous for sitting in a chair snoring, between answers to an ongoing conversation.
He taught just a few miles from where Carlos taught. Used to attract a huge crowd, in a normal store front along what was likely the same street as Dance home.
Of course, he was as delusional as all Yogis.
He told his followers not to change their underwear, because magical "shakti" particles would build up in it.
And he could transmit them to new people who came (with donations?) by bopping them with an ostrich feather.
His "signature trademark" was that blue dot we all see.
I believe he called it, "The blue pearl".
Again, another sign of a greedy delusional Yogi.
But he did manage to move his assemblage point a bit.
He rose to fame, like Yogananda, with what was called at the time, "Esoteric Pornography".
Naturally, he never managed to teach anyone at all, what he'd written about.
Just like Yogananda.
Or Maharishi.
Or Meher Baba.
Or the Buddha for that matter. The "Fire Kasina" text explains his beginners abilities, and then makes it clear, his apostles could only do half of it.
As if that's a selling point!
Imagine you get a swimming instructor, who only manages to teach the dog paddle to his students.
That's nothing to brag about!
But Buddhists eat that shit up.
I can only add that, in my experience, recapping right at the beginning of dark room is also great. It helps bring out the purple puffs.
Edit: Also, I tend to see purple puffs during recap in general actually, now that I think about it.
Can you elaborate your recapitulation Technique?
I just do the sweeping breath from Castaneda's, Florinda's, and Taisha books and I've really only been at it 4+ weeks or so, because I thought a bunch of silly things that kept me from doing it.
When breathing in, intend the return of your energy darts given to them in that emotional interaction with a command. When breathing out, intend return of their energy darts, given to you in that energetic emotional interaction with a command. Rinse and repeat as much as you can. Some memories take a lot of head turns others not so much.
I am not picky about setting or the time of day with recap, just when I want less self-talk. I've not needed to refer to a list yet, but I'm working on one in a spreadsheet because I will need it soon. Apparently you can get even better results with the list and by doing it in a place where walls are closer to your physical body than the edge of your energy shell. That's why people make recap boxes over chairs. A car might be small enough to give that effect when you are parked somewhere.
I remember somewhere in the books, that the recap was useful for loosen up the assemblage point.
And since no one out there made it work, those are good news.
I still have the theory that we live in lateral shifts in the blue line.
So you might discover, recapitulation is better for getting into the middle, rather than just being sitted forcing silence.
We really need people identifying that!
I see the fireflies that pop in and out (energy sparks?) of bright sunlight, and I see the energy that swirls around in the darkness without getting silent. How different are these purple puffs?
The puffs are small purple clouds. Those need some silence to be visible, but not very much.
I know my answer was short. Did it help or do you want more information?
Possibly I'm collating information from multiple disciplines at the moment and looking for overlap. I have a few personal experiences to draw on. I got hit by a car and slipped timelines, mandela effects went crazy, so I know the future/past is not set. I have very brief memories of a past life and I've woken up outside of my body once, so I know this body is not exactly me but I can't repeat it. I've seen energy in sunlight for years, and in the dark I see breathing swirls which can sometimes tell me if I'm seeping energy.
I'm starting to form a theory that the mind we have may not be ours, and/or it's some sort of trap (as I believe reincarnation to be). The getting silent is a common aspect of several disciplines and I'm starting to think it may be that we cannot get in touch with ourselves while the mind is overlaying/distracting. Instead we control the mind which is purposefully muted for whatever reason.
I will likely revise my theories as I get more information. I just wondered if the things you are seeing in any way relate to things I already see. Will I see more of them with practice. Can I practice with a sleep mask because it's never fully dark? I'm a box of questions tbh.
I use a sleep mask for darkroom aka waking dreaming. Although complete darkness is not actually required for dark room practice, it eliminates the question of "did I really just see that or, am I just adapting to darkness?" and total darkness increases the vividness.
when you use a sleep mask, are your eyes open or closed by the mask? Curious about trying this so I can do more darkroom work in the daytime and not just at night.
Eyes open. Got one of the manta masks, so pretty good darkness and room for the eyes to open with minimal contact between mask and eyelashes, but I usually darken a room too, during the day.
You're the first person to report that.
For people with naturally long eyelashes, this is important info! Since some versions of the Manta Mask are rather pricey.
I meant to mention that ages ago, lost track. The deal with the manta masks is you just don't want to tighten them too much, because the foam isn't rigid. However, they did really well by having the cups attach to the strap with Velcro, so you can adjust them to your face pretty well. One of my crafty friends who can sew totally made her own based on their design after she saw mine.
I got the 3M safety glasses with tape that one Ukrainian guy once suggested. It is great you have much more room for your eyes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/k2l1pe/made_glasses_for_darkroom_practice/
Btw can you swoop the colored puffs already? I believe as beginner you have to reach a very deep stage for that. I just wonder how that will look like with the mask on.
Yes, though I'm not always silent or awake enough to do so.
I tried a welding mask like that one, but it didn't have a very good or comfortable seal, so I decided to try the Manta mask.
At this point I'm about ready to paint my windows though.
I missed your question earlier.
I absolutely can and do scoop puffs with the mask on. It looks exactly like what you'd expect from watching the Tensegrity videos.
You see a little colorful cloud somewhere, reach out a hand around the other side of the little cloud, so the puff is between your hands and face, then scoop, as the videos show, and while looking at the puff in the hand, you bring the hand to an energy pouch, where you wipe the puff. Likely you will see the cloud sort of smeared on your energy pouches. Then just look for the next cloud/puff and scoop it and put it on the other energy pouch. Rinse and repeat.
In other words, any mask you can open your eyes in comfortably, works great and makes stuff more vivid than a room that's only mostly dark. The mask also helped me stop explaining away what I was seeing as weird effects of getting used to low light levels in a semi-dark room, which is a good thing to eliminate.
Thank you for all these comments. I think it was very necessary to clear this up for all of us. Yes, if you ask me (as a beginner), the best dark room progress comes after doing what is described here for some time………it reduces that potential “mind noise”………..I think one cannot really isolate just one technique and get better…..rather, one needs to work on all these areas……..stalking, recap, dreaming, tensegrity, dark room…………..
I believe very funny techniques will be possible for all of us, if we manage to survive.
Such as "Looking for Allies in the Woods".
When someone lends me a computer, I will make a pic!
The visual field ends up the same as in the darkroom, and it can be manipulated with the hands and Tensegrity.
These days Fairy is not shy at all in the daylight.